Two Natural Ladies Podcast 90 – Uplifting ourselves and others !

Open it up and have a whiff – essential oils are more than you think

Two Natural Ladies have a great discussion around aromatherapy oils their fragrances are uplifting and their

Jo did some fact finding about Aromatherapy on the internet – she forgot to note who the source was

  • Before modern medicine aromatherapy was used …the plants were used to heal.
  • Used by many cultures from religious reasons or for the sick
  • Medicinal plants carbon dated from 18,000 B.C.
  • The difference between fragrant oils and true aromatherapy oils

Vicki shares a story about the healing qualities of the lavender oil. A friends face burn and Vicki’s hand burn – lavender oil to the rescue rubbing the oil in the pain went away and no blistering

Egyptians used oils as early as 4,500 BC for incense, perfume or medicine. The oils can relieve anxiety, depression, cure headaches, strengthen our immune system, improve digestion and induce sleep.

Two Natural Ladies share the benefits of specific oils and how they can be used including:

  • Mixing orange, geranium and Ylang Ylang -a great oil for women
  • Tea Tree oil is an amazing anti everything oil!
  • The aromatic molecules absorb into the skin.
  • Chicken Pox: bathing with chamomile.
  • Oils don’t stay in your body they excrete out they don’t store
  • Lavender and Chamomile can be used to help calm people.
  • Touch and soothing quality for the elderly when oils are mixed with a cream.


Parents, Conversations and the elements – an eclectic discussion that changes like the weather

Two Natural Ladies start with chatting about the misnomer of ‘everything is handled’, cause it’s never all handled. “We are back to normal Yay! Smooth sailing from here. Then BANG something happens. It’s just like Melbourne weather, from a storm to a clear, calm, sunshiny day all in a matter of hours. This leads to a discussion about weather in other countries. Jo shares her discovery of Lebanon’s weather in summer which is exactly the same every day for months. Astounding!

Vicki & Jo then chat about parents and grandparents and Jo shares her conversations with her Nana. Finding out the history of your family. And get your kids to ask YOU questions so they know about your life!

“Pay attention to the pregnant woman. There is no one as important as she” Chagga saying Uganda

Motherhood and ‘Mamamoto a celebrations of birth

“Frequent travels south of the equator where I gossiped with women, made me realize there was a wealth of knowledge about birth virtually hidden from us in the western world

Stories about conception pregnancy birth babycare so different” Anita Roddick founder of the body shop

Jo and Vicki discuss some of the interesting traditions in different cultures. Community plays a huge part in the care of the pregnant women and her baby. In our culture the guilt mums feel when they ‘lose it’ get angry and rage at the kids. How do we handle this? The isolation, we in the west can feel. Community is missing.

A fun interesting podcast with lots of twist and turns


“The heaviest burdens are the thoughts in our heads!” Tamara Kulish

Covering up and pretending – is Vicki pretending she is happy when she is with Jo?

“Putting icing on shit” Being in the moment – and how you can feel like a ‘fake’. We are real and genuine on air and when we leave things can change. We can be in the moment and we are in our own little bubble.

Juice of life – having a chat. Even over dishes!

Vicki’s spark of an idea “knit a thon’ midnight to 6am. A great chat about Knit and napping.

Two Natural Ladies discuss Louise Hay’s book – “You can heal your life”

Starting with our resistance to change. Awareness is the first step. Then feeling the resistance which is also important in the healing process. Forgiveness is also part of this. So many lessons to learn. If you see patterns in your life then it is probably something to work on.

We get feedback from the people around us. We change our behaviour depending on who we are with.

All the different ways we avoid and resist:

  • Nonverbal cues: changing the subject; leaving the room; going to the bathroom, getting sick, being late eating drinking smoking
  • Assumptions: We often assume things about others to justify our resistance: it wouldn’t do any good anyway; They don’t understand;They couldn’t handle my anger
  • Beliefs: It’s not right; Spiritual people don’t get angry; It’s too far to drive; It’s too expensive; It will take too long; Im not that kind of person; My doctor doesn’t want me to
  • Self concepts: Too old; too young; too fat; too thin; too lazy; too tall
  • Delay tactics: I’ll do it later; I can’t think right now; I have too much else to do; The time isn’t right; Its too late
  • Denial: There’s nothing wrong; I’m fine; I’ll be positive
  • Fear: I’m afraid to tell; I might get hurt; I don’t have the energy; Its too hard

There’s some need being met to keep the behaviour going – need to release the need – Am I willing?

Our mind chatter. We all have it. Asking others “Are we on the right track?” Who can we trust our own conversations or those of others!


The Great News About Global Poverty

Two Natural Ladies interview Johanna de Burca co- founder of Just Peoples (started with her best friend Kristy)

Johanna left her corporate job and after travelling she could see the inequality between people sailing around in their mega yachts to people in Africa sleeping in slums. Johanna wanted to make a difference and spent a year volunteering in Central America on a Gravity fed watering system.

Not understanding the culture and language was difficult and connecting with the local people Johanna saw that the way forward was to support those who knew best how to work in their own community. Give them the funding, tools and technical support – Good intentions and money is not enough. Help those to use the resources they have to create sustainability.

Johanna shares with Jo & Vicki a wonderful story about Charlotte from Kenya who was orphaned and then became a mother at 16. Charlotte discovered the traditional resources used to fuel the stoves were causing a lot of air pollution and respiratory problems. Charlotte put herself through Uni and then she created a cooking stove that was much safer for the community to use. Just Peoples support people at the beginning of their journey, once they have a workable concept. With Charlotte they helped with getting 60 stoves made and educating 60 women. Charlotte won the Global Citizen Award and has now become a member on Just Peoples board.

The perception of what we think other people need. Rather than the ‘on the ground’ perspective. Just People are a facilitator helping with what is actually needed rather than filling our own needs.

People giving donations have the opportunity to be part of unique projects that they want to get involved in. A tangible project. People can choose the country and the cause

Vicki and Jo find out how Just Peoples works with the Project Leaders on the ground. Another inspirational story about the difference being made in Tanzania and Bangladesh in relation to young girls and their periods. Cloth sanitary pads being made and educating girls and boys about puberty and helping the cultural issues in Bangladesh where a girl’s period was never talked about causing shame and health issues.

Johanna would love to have a chat with people who want to donation

You can contact Johanna or


 “In every community, there is work to be done. In every nation, there are wounds to heal. In every heart, there is the power to do it.” Marianne Williamson


The Power of Community: Tiny Buddah

Two Natural Ladies discuss 6 powerful reasons not to go it alone:

  • Collective wisdom.No one person ever has all of the answers, and regardless of the amount of Google-fu you may have, consulting with experts is always going to give you better information.
  • Pushing our limits.When working alone, it’s oftentimes too easy to give up when things get hard. By surrounding yourself with others working toward a similar goal or objective, you’ll get motivation, support, and friendly competition to push yourself just a bit further than you would have done on your own.
  • Support and belief.Some days those big goals just seem impossible. On those days when you most want to give up, you need to lean on your community the most. They believe in you—probably more than you belief in yourself.
  • New ideas.I truly believe that when you are working within a community of like-minded people that the wisdom of crowds is considerably greater than any one person working alone. Our divergent world views and lenses mean that we all approach the exact same problem slightly differently.
  • Support and belief.Some days those big goals just seem impossible. On those days when you most want to give up, you need to lean on your community the most. They believe in you—probably more than you belief in yourself.
  • New ideas.I truly believe that when you are working within a community of like-minded people that the wisdom of crowds is considerably greater than any one person working alone. Our divergent world views and lenses mean that we all approach the exact same problem slightly differently.
  • Borrowed motivation.Even on those days when your belief in yourself isn’t waning, doing what needs to get done can seem overwhelming. Look around your community and be inspired!
  • Accountability. If you’re an uber-responsible person, you may not want to admit to people you care about who are pulling for you that something didn’t get done. There’s nothing like having to be accountable to others to up your game.


“Allowing others to help is hard, but it ultimately raises everyone’s game, and suddenly that summit isn’t nearly so far off.” Jen Waak

The Monkees, Davey Jones, the Brady Bunch: some light banter about how they impacted Jo and Vicki’s lives. Which lead to some discussion about one of their favourite topics: Community.

The Longevity film had a lasting effect on the Two Natural Ladies and they loves sharing the learnings they got from the film.


“The longevity cultures live, on average, 8-10 years longer than us, and these are good quality years, often spent surrounded by friends and family with a big smile on their face. We don’t have that in the West.” Kale Brock

We need to rethink our lifestyle to create a long healthy life. Kale visited the Blue Zones identified by the researchers at National Geographic whose communities had considerably longer life spans.

Community engagement, purpose, daily movement and a whole foods diet, but what I found most tangible during my experiences with these people is their perspective on life.

It’s hard to separate if it’s the physical or emotional wellbeing that is more important. It’s probably a combination.

Tiny Home societies can create a fabulous community, with communal gardening, cooking yet having your own space. This then slipped into the world of the smashing of Jo’s Trophies


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